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Submitted by: Mark R. Leeper and Evelyn C. Leeper United States
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Jaigarh Fort (there seem to be a whole string of these forts along the ridge) is said by some (the guide) to be the world's oldest fort and over a thousand years old, and by others (the Lonely Planet guide) to date back to 1726. We think the discrepancy is that there has been a fort in this spot since 960 but most people say this particular fort was only built in 1726 by Jai Singh (remember him?), and Nahagarh is also 18th Century. What we were seeing did not look a millennium old.

The fort has two halls of a rather lackluster museum. They had some small cannons and their history and some pictures of troops at the fort. They had a few swords and daggers, but not really a whole lot shown off very well.

But the real attraction of the fort is Jaya Vana, the world's largest cannon on wheels. The barrel is twenty feet (six meters) long and weighs fifty tons. The mouth is eleven inches in diameter and the cannon fired twenty-two miles (thirty-five kilometers) when it was tested, the one and only time the cannon was fired. (Does it really count if it was never really used? Evelyn is not sure it counts, but Guinness thinks it does.) To make the cannon maneuverable it was put on nine-foot-high (three-meter- high) wheels. So lightly balanced is the cannon on its two wheels that only four elephants are needed to re-aim the cannon.

Mark looked at the cannon; Mark looked at Evelyn. Mark looked at the cannon; Mark looked at Evelyn. Mark said, The hills of Jaipur have given birth to many myths and legends.

Mark doesn't think there is one person in ten thousand who would have realized he was posing a trivia question and Evelyn, who had seen relatively few films when he first met her, recognized that he was making a film reference and knew almost perfectly the response. She said, Second only to Keros. It was a nearly perfect response. It should have been Greece and the islands of the Aegean, not Keros.

If you have no idea what we are talking about, it is an exercise in film trivia. Ask us sometime.

On the way back from the forts we stopped for some photo ops. The first was Jalmahal, the Water Palace. We also stopped at the Hawa Mahal, or Palace of the Winds. This is the cover picture on the new Lonely Planet guide and is a five-story pink sandstone building from which royal ladies could see life outside unobserved behind marble screens. The facade is beautiful, but if you look closely, you can see that the interior is a total ruin. It reminded Evelyn of those false-front Western towns that are used in movies. The fact that it was on a traffic-congested street full of all sorts of run-down vehicles did not add to its photogenic qualities. (The cover photo shows only the top two and a half stories.)

After that it was back to the city with one more stop at the Birla Temple (actually the Lakshmi Narayan Temple, built by the Birlas, a fabulously wealthy industrial family), a beautiful white marble Hindu temple. As Mark described it, Around the outside are carvings of Hindu deities, including Jesus, St. Paul, Socrates, Athena, and Moses. Again remember Hinduism's odd approach to other religions. Rather than say other religions are wrong and people must convert to Hinduism, it says that there are many sects of Hinduism and any religion is such a sect. You don't convert to Hinduism, if we understand it right. You have already been a Hindu all of your life, but there is more to learn about Hinduism. That certainly makes forced conversions unnecessary. Now if only it would get rid of proselytizing. Of course if another religion takes the same philosophy you run into the curious condition that each is a sect of the other.

Mark continued in his log, If you have noticed in this log, I have made a number of comments about religion. That is because as someone who had little interest in religion as a young man, I have found as I grow older I have very strong opinions about religion and what has gone wrong with religion in the past. Each of these logs has me look at more of the world's religions and crystalizes the principles of my beliefs. And they are:

0: It is impossible to know if there is a God or not.
1: There is no ritual sin. All sin is in your relations with other sentient beings, exclusive of God, and we do not know if there can be sin in your relations with yourself.
2: No action that is immoral without the existence of God is moral if God exists.
3: Don't pretend religious knowledge exists and you have it. It doesn't and you don't.

In further explanation, Mark says, Principle 0 says that the universe just has not given us tools for a real knowledge of something like a god. Principle 1 says that if there is a God He doesn't want your flattery. If there is a God, He is good and just wants you to be good. Principle 2 says that a good God cannot sanction hurting sentient beings to please Him. No being worth worshiping could have wanted the Spanish Inquisition. Principle 4 says that you don't have the tools to have religious knowledge, so examine other's beliefs with humility. Judge other's actions but not their beliefs. Which means one cannot tell you these principles are right and yours are wrong. But one can judge what you do to others. You can say you think Christ or Osiris rose from the dead, but you cannot tell someone they should agree with you. One cannot tell you that there is no Kali or that she doesn't want you to kill. Believe that all you want. But if you decide to start killing as a result, it is a virtue to restrain you and, if need be, to kill you before you kill others. I believe all this as strongly as a Muslim believes in Allah or a Hindu believes in Rama and Krishna. In addition, I believe that this is all consistent with my being a Jew. Not all Jews will agree and that is fine. I am proud to be a Jew, but these beliefs are more ingrained than my Jewishness since they are not what I have been told, but what I myself believe. Okay, off my soapbox.

After this we had hoped to make our train reservations, but we forgot it was Sunday and the reservation office was closed. We did find out that the train we wanted left at 12:50 PM and arrived at 10:05 PM, which was useful information, and we bought some crackers and water (for which they tried to overcharge us Rs10). Then back to the hotel for a well-earned rest.

We spent the evening in the room writing. As we fought off mosquitos in our room, Mark suggested that perhaps we want to have nicer hotels in the future than the one we currently have. There is something to be said for Tour hard, sleep easy. Waking in the middle of the night knowing you have been bitten several times by little blood-suckers, having rooms not made up, having equipment in the room not working, having to fight the toilet, having to eat off of a sticky placemat and drink from a glass that has food from someone else's meal on it, having a key that does not work in the door, having to step over construction, having a shower that is nearly unusable, having no hot water, getting hit on by hawkers in lobbies--these are all things that qualify as sleep hard. Unfortunately, when we found what sounded like a nice hotel for US$35 in the Lonely Planet guide, they had just upped their price to US$80 a night.

Since Mark had used up something like two and a half rolls of film in one day, it occurred to Evelyn to ask if he might not be going through his film too fast. Well, Thing, his palmtop computer, has been telling him right along what percentage of the trip was over. With a few instructions Thing started to tell him also how much film he would have used up if he used all his film at a uniform rate and also how many pages of log he would expect to have used. Thing thinks he is actually using film a little slower than necessary, but log pages he is a little more likely to run out of. If he does run out of log, Thing will fill in the slack. Thing is useful in many ways.



October 18, 1993:

Well, Mark woke up at 6:30 AM and started writing to try to catch up after a full day yesterday. At about 7 AM there was a loud noise, sort of like you'd get from a door slamming, and at the same time the power went out. Mark doesn't know what happened but the power was out for about fifteen minutes.

We went to breakfast. Mark had fried eggs and orange juice; Evelyn ordered iddlies. Mark's came first and he'd finished it by the time they served Evelyn. A few minutes later they brought him eggs three and four. He tried to explain he'd already been served. He could not make himself understood. Eventually the waiter just said, You don't want? Yes, I don't want. He seemed put out that Mark would order what he didn't want, but he took the two eggs away. He charged us for two eggs and we don't know if he ever figured why Mark suddenly did not want eggs, but having eaten breakfast already wrecks his appetite.

We had a bunch of errands to run. So we negotiated an auto-rickshaw for Rs30 to take us to the railway station, the bank, the Central Museum, and the Johari Bazaar. First we went to the railway station to book the train to Jodhpur. Mark writes, We were able to get in the short line which was reserved for 'soldiers, foreign tourists, the elderly, and freedom fighters.' Maybe someone somebody can tell me how Indian railways recognizes 'freedom fighters.' Maybe anybody who pushes into line to get done sooner is a sort of freedom fighter. Now of those categories the least pushy is the elderly, or so I'd figure. However, it looked like someone from that category who shoved ahead of us in line.

Tickets to Jodhpur were Rs307 each, including all fees. (That's about US$10 for a nine-hour train ride.) We got done so fast that it was still too early for the bank. So we found a telephone to reserve a hotel in Jodhpur, since we were scheduled to arrive there at 10 PM. Our first choice (the Ajit Bhawan Palace Hotel) didn't seem to exist any more or has changed its number; at any rate, we got the wrong party. Our second choice was a nice luxury hotel. This was the one we referred to before that had doubled its rates (from Rs1100 to Rs2300). And we could not find a phone number for our third choice. Back to the drawing board.

Public phones here are different than back home. Here rather than phone booths there are whole STD/ISD offices (Straight Telephone Dialing/International Straight Dialing). It is an office in which somebody maintains phone books and helps the user make a call. (Since the Lonely Planet guide doesn't always list the city code for a city, this is useful.) You call your number, an LCD display keeps track of the charges, and when you hang up a piece of paper with the amount on it is printed. The clerk shows you this and you pay him. Labor is cheap and technology expensive. A local came to the office at the same time we were there. He got his connection, identified himself, said one sentence, and hung up. No times for pleasantries at these prices, Mark guesses. (There are also some public phones for local calls that take a Rs1 coin, but these usually don't work.)

Our next stop was the State Bank of India to change another US$300, as we had gone through two-thirds of the US$500 we changed earlier. On the way we saw some workers sitting down to cool off and they'd seen us and were smiling at us. Mark smiled back and waved; four people waved to someone they'd seen for only about eight seconds.

Mark writes, Hey, don't get me wrong when I complain about some of the people I deal with on the trip. The vast majority are very nice people.

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